tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26127907834394672.post6168181973280960093..comments2023-09-08T10:09:11.050+02:00Comments on FJÄDERLÄTT: West of Virihaure - the shelterMartin Nordesjöhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02780462270028526576noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26127907834394672.post-81162176427079845042016-10-15T10:32:56.840+02:002016-10-15T10:32:56.840+02:00Well done - fantastic job! I actually found this ...Well done - fantastic job! I actually found this page as I was trying to find an original Fjallraven G66 Thermo Alu tent as this was the first tent I ever owned in the 1980's! Can anyone sell one to me? blezellis@hotmail.com Thanks Simon Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10838312045271586987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26127907834394672.post-13156524290206871762016-08-30T18:12:45.523+02:002016-08-30T18:12:45.523+02:00Do you know, for whom instrument to measure wind s...Do you know, for whom <a href="https://weatherstationary.com/collections/portable-wind-meters" rel="nofollow">instrument to measure wind speed</a> are? It's mainly used by sailors, meteorology departments, weather stations, shootings. It's also used by farmers as well. It's a very useful instrument to measure wind.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03387545136291531139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26127907834394672.post-3845114097972121152010-09-23T11:56:04.091+02:002010-09-23T11:56:04.091+02:00Using a predecessor to CAD a k a paper and pen, I ...Using a predecessor to CAD a k a paper and pen, I have know made a simple sketch of the tarptent including measurements available at http://www.nui.se/tmp/Cuben_tent.pdfJörgen Johanssonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01527089654222009239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26127907834394672.post-66718537691049045412010-09-20T12:41:31.634+02:002010-09-20T12:41:31.634+02:00Marianne,
Yeah, I have made a rough sketch and it ...Marianne,<br />Yeah, I have made a rough sketch and it will be on the web as soon as I figure out how :-)<br />I have used cell foam underneath ripstop nylon bivy bags/innertents before. But I find it easier to have it inside. <br />I also have to be candid about the fact that having breaks or punctures in any tent floor is no big deal to me. So I feel the same about extra footprints for tents as I do about double fabrics in trousers: If it ain't broke, don't fix it.<br />Should I have a puncture or a hole in a tent floor (which as far as I can remember never has happened in spite of quite a few tent nights)it is easy to patch with some tape and a needle and thread if need be. I have had holes in tents, so I have practised. When you come home after the trip you can make a better repair.<br />Yes, a sleeve for the handles of the poles is a good idea. I have used it and found that actually having the points going through the fabric has made for a more stable tent in high winds. But that is probably just a matter of finding a good sleeve solution. I will consider this.<br />Suluk46 has lots of interesting stuff on Cuben, that was one site that I used to educate myself a bit. Also a film showing how tear resistant Cuben is.Jörgen Johanssonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01527089654222009239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26127907834394672.post-71471562179942987462010-09-20T10:36:00.174+02:002010-09-20T10:36:00.174+02:00I really love your tent and would be very pleased ...I really love your tent and would be very pleased if you could publish measurements of your tent and innertent etc. b/c I would like to make something myself. I read somewhere that it would be wise to put the (dark yellow) cell foam mat under a cuben fibre floor as protection for the cuben fibre (abrasion is cuben's weak point).I would also try to make a 'keeper'of some sorts to put the handles of my walking poles into and reinforce these places, perhaps by glueing the reinforcements??? Have a look at www.Suluk46.com with a lot of information on Cuben fibre. Kind regards, MarianneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26127907834394672.post-13460881648130087982010-09-16T08:14:41.529+02:002010-09-16T08:14:41.529+02:00Gustav,
Yes, the weight impressed me as well.
Corr...Gustav,<br />Yes, the weight impressed me as well.<br />Correct, I taped all seams that join separate pieces of fabric. It is a double-sided tape and not a seam sealing tape that you use in rain gear.<br />I bought 6 meters of fabric at 27,90 Euro, total 167,40 Euro and one roll of tape (I have plenty left) of 55 m costing 23,90 Euro. Cuben is expensive compared to silnylon.Jörgen Johanssonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01527089654222009239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26127907834394672.post-72636479527623394972010-09-15T23:37:27.318+02:002010-09-15T23:37:27.318+02:00Thanks for sharing Jörgen! I was really curious ab...Thanks for sharing Jörgen! I was really curious about this one.The total weight is really truly amazing. I have some questions:<br /><br />1.Do I read you correct in that you just taped, and not sewed, most seams? I would have thought that you would first sew normally and then apply the seam tape.<br />2. What did the fabric and tape cost?Gustav Boströmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10129638529578896125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26127907834394672.post-90784373653426220252010-09-15T14:37:43.494+02:002010-09-15T14:37:43.494+02:00Joe,
The side entry adds immense comfort, even mor...Joe,<br />The side entry adds immense comfort, even more comfortable is a second zip at the low end, so you can flip up the whole side and have breakfast in the sun. I used that on another sil-nylon tent that can be seen here http://www.fjaderlatt.se/2010/07/summer-days-of-dreaming-cuben-and-proof.html#more<br />That tent is on the first and third photo.<br />Version 1.2 :-)Jörgen Johanssonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01527089654222009239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26127907834394672.post-11908305643219460692010-09-15T09:07:33.215+02:002010-09-15T09:07:33.215+02:00That's a really simple, very light, clean look...That's a really simple, very light, clean looking shelter Jörgen! I'm sure the issues with the grommets will be revised on version 1.2!<br /><br />As Maz stated, I like the idea of side entry zip.Joe Newtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00907231785281446095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26127907834394672.post-80089245650135875222010-09-15T08:20:00.800+02:002010-09-15T08:20:00.800+02:00Thanks for the positive comments.
A hot knife shou...Thanks for the positive comments.<br />A hot knife should work very well, I suppose. I just use a soldering iron/pen since I have one anyway.<br />I'll try and scan a drawing giving the measurements in a couple of days or so.<br />The mistake was that I had all the measurements for the 2 triangular pieces that join to form the front end. I then did not realise that one of the angles was not 90 degrees before cutting it from the roll of fabric. This meant that I had to shorten the lengt of the front 'pointy' end foretent considerably. Same mistake at the rear end, although it did not have the same impact. You can see the difference in profile between the Cuben and the G66 Vancouver Island photos.<br />However, the space in the front end was quite enough for my gear(I do not have much)so it might have been an improvement. What I do not know is if the front end is too upright and does not shed a very strong head wind as well as I know the old version does.<br />When I made the shelter in 2004 I thought about catenary curves, but failed to measure such a curve on the ridgeline of the old tent. The photo above still gives an impression of one though. I probably made a mistake somewhere.<br />I have not used catenary curves in any shelter I have made. My personal feeling is that it is a bit of over-engineering. I am sure that it is based on fact and that a tent pitched in a store or on somebodys lawn will get a tighter pitch and ridgeline with a catenary curve. But I have never had any problems without catenary curves when it comes to pitching on the naturally uneven ground you encounter in the field. So I have simply left it to the people with a special interest and not felt it was worth the bother to learn, measure and especially join catenary cut fabrics. But that is just me.Jörgen Johanssonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01527089654222009239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26127907834394672.post-83435970781376505922010-09-14T21:14:20.181+02:002010-09-14T21:14:20.181+02:00It looks like a great shelter. I especially like t...It looks like a great shelter. I especially like the inner design, giving a roomy upper and a little viewing window. The side entry zipper is also a good idea.<br /><br />What was your error in the calculations (the brain-failure)? Was it something to do with the catenary curve?<br /><br />Unfortunately I am utterly unskilled when it comes to making things like this, so I admire your achievement immensely.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12083525341687060234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26127907834394672.post-23484853931273203632010-09-14T20:24:22.990+02:002010-09-14T20:24:22.990+02:00Jörgen, this is very interesting, as you know I am...Jörgen, this is very interesting, as you know I am planning to revisit Lapland in 2011 and one of my shelter options was the GG Spinnshelter. However, now you have got me wondering whether I could make a Cuben version. As I will be there in bug season I will need a bug shelter, I very much like what you have made and it would seem that it would be a good practice run for a MYOG Shelter.<br />For cutting cuben (or silnylon) I was able to purchase an electric hot knife, I expect that it would work. I will need to look at your measurements and also BPL.com catenary curve guide thanks for this very useful article. You have given me a lot to think about.Nielsen Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16493125853192182579noreply@blogger.com