tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26127907834394672.post2424853940349298176..comments2023-09-08T10:09:11.050+02:00Comments on FJÄDERLÄTT: Canister stoves in the cold - insulated or not?Martin Nordesjöhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02780462270028526576noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26127907834394672.post-27918088939470366882010-01-06T13:05:56.350+01:002010-01-06T13:05:56.350+01:00Det är knepigt detta, att få toppgasbrännaren att ...Det är knepigt detta, att få toppgasbrännaren att fungera bra på vintern. Men eftersom den är såpass lätt, hygienisk och enkel att hantera vill man gärna.. Tillföra lagom värme till burken utan risk är ju kruxet. Har laborerat med diverse inkapslingar med metallfolie m.m., men de har kännts för farliga. Min vanligaste approach, ner till minus 10-15 grader ca (sen går jag över till matlagning över öppen eld eller hellre i raststuga..) är att helt enkelt hålla i burken med handskfria händer, går bra en stund, förutsatt att man sitter vindskyddat inne i tältet. Desssutom tillför det ju lite säkerhet/stabilitet, eftersom man inte gärna vill välta en toppgasbrännare inne i ett tält bland dunsäckar och annat brandfarligt. Har även funderat på heatpads+liggunderlagsisolering, men jag tvivlar på att effekten från en sån räcker. Sant också att man ska se till att ha rinnande vatten - En 1-liters Nalgene innanför jackan/sovsäcken där man gradvis tillför snö till smält vatten spar mycket gas och tid.Jarlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10207478478931511507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26127907834394672.post-79299182861090982982010-01-01T19:29:57.886+01:002010-01-01T19:29:57.886+01:00I've been in the same situation, although I...I've been in the same situation, although I've used alcohol stoves for deep winter conditions for ever. But it's kind of interesteing how often 'conventional wisdom' turns out to be only 'conventional' :-)Jörgen Johanssonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01527089654222009239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26127907834394672.post-14951633959857901372010-01-01T14:19:53.363+01:002010-01-01T14:19:53.363+01:00Jörgen - I'd like to thank you as well for pos...Jörgen - I'd like to thank you as well for posting this. I was actually reading your post about the trip along the northern rails last week and was surprised at first that you were using a cannister stove when 'conventional wisdom' told me that I should switch to a heavier white gas stove in such conditions.Joe Newtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00907231785281446095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26127907834394672.post-44560917942591419912009-12-31T11:03:54.326+01:002009-12-31T11:03:54.326+01:00Glad you appreciated the article. Yeah, my experie...Glad you appreciated the article. Yeah, my experience of gas stoves is that down to 20 below they work very well using the technique I've described. Actually, very few winter campers experience colder weather. My gas consumption however soars from 25 g/day in 3season camping to 75 g/day in winter. Un-frozen water saves a lot of energy.<br />There is one article in English on winter camping with canister stoves on my site:<br />http://www.fjaderlatt.se/2009/04/along-northern-rails-with-incredible.htmlJörgen Johanssonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01527089654222009239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26127907834394672.post-6071399966513886242009-12-30T19:51:15.628+01:002009-12-30T19:51:15.628+01:00Jörgen, thanks for a very insightful article on ga...Jörgen, thanks for a very insightful article on gas stoves. Having just returned from Skåne where the temps were just below zero, using a half empty cartridge, it was noticeable how slow the burn was with my snowpeak ti stove. I now understand why thanks to Niklas's comments. I am not sure if I will see -20 temps, but it appears keeping my canister in my jacket (or in the sleeping bag) will work for most of what I am likely to experience.<br /><br />Thanks again.Nielsen Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16493125853192182579noreply@blogger.com