tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26127907834394672.post2133211058543801656..comments2023-09-08T10:09:11.050+02:00Comments on FJÄDERLÄTT: Canister vs white - gas in winterMartin Nordesjöhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02780462270028526576noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26127907834394672.post-51842862241981123152016-06-20T18:09:39.187+02:002016-06-20T18:09:39.187+02:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Huynh Minhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12709381611863309025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26127907834394672.post-5683263223272548952010-02-25T17:38:44.896+01:002010-02-25T17:38:44.896+01:00For up to 4 days: one can keep it simple... I usua...For up to 4 days: one can keep it simple... I usually go on some short solo tours in the Sarek in Winter. As I want to enjoy myself, mostly in March - so below - 30 C is very rare. Had white gas stoves before, don't like them, noisy, troublesome etc. So I took my old trangia with me (yes, you are hearing right: röd sprit! / alcohol!)and: wow! With the very small and very light attachment for winter it works incredible smooth. Just light it with 1 match, sit back and enjoy the sunrise (or sunset) - in complete carefree silence. As the alcohol heats itself up while burning, it does take exactly as long as in summer to boil water. True: you need more alcohol for melting snow, but for 3 - 4 days thats negligible. And absolutly NO worries about o-ring-seals, keeping the canister warm etc. etc. Greatly underestimated things, these old trangias.Carefreenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26127907834394672.post-20729407691007572292010-02-09T08:11:05.122+01:002010-02-09T08:11:05.122+01:00Gaute,
That's how I understand the physics as ...Gaute,<br />That's how I understand the physics as well, the exact temperature depending a bit on the actual mixture. But as I understand it you don't really have to worry about that when you invert the canister, since it then is liquid gas running through the hose, and gasification happens at the burner/preheat tube. This meaning it will continue to work at temperatures far below normal gasification.<br /><br />Roger Caffin has compared his white gas stove with his gas canister stove for winter trips and written about this at Backpackingligth.com. He uses less fuel with canister gas.<br /><br />6 liters is a fair amount, I never melt snow for more than 1,5-2 l at the time. Maybe you have dogs or travelling in a big group?Jörgen Johanssonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01527089654222009239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26127907834394672.post-10879363756976604382010-02-08T21:22:27.725+01:002010-02-08T21:22:27.725+01:00As I understand the physics a gas canister will st...As I understand the physics a gas canister will stop emitting gas at tempratures below -25 C... Not ambient temprature but actually temperature of canister and the gas within. And you mention several tricks for keeping the canister warmer...<br />I know my white gas stove will melt 6 liters of water from snow in an hour. So my question is how long will it take to melt 6 liters of water with gas in the winter? It would be interesting to see how long it takes to melt the same amount of water with gas and white gas at different tempratures... Say at for instance -10 C, -20 C and -30 C.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16841994530059250060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26127907834394672.post-5428655556441218542010-02-08T16:25:57.417+01:002010-02-08T16:25:57.417+01:00According to Primus the Spider will hit the stores...According to Primus the Spider will hit the stores in March.Jörgen Johanssonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01527089654222009239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26127907834394672.post-77223630033267010612010-02-08T11:26:40.985+01:002010-02-08T11:26:40.985+01:00Looking forward to seeing this comparison but as R...Looking forward to seeing this comparison but as Roger has already suggested in your most recent post, I think the inverted remote gas stove will win. Good job too because they're so much lighter!<br /><br />Is the Primus ExpressSpider out yet?Joe Newtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00907231785281446095noreply@blogger.com